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just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my friend and colleague joe scarborough who often speaks common sense from the center right. is it fair to say you're in the center right politically? where would you like to have a third party describe you? i think you are center right. i'm somewhere over to the left, but i think you're somewhere on the other side of the middle point. where are you? >> you know, for the most part i'm where i was when i was in congress. 95% conservative rating. and we could start a debate right now over debt. let me just -- because this is an importa
just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my...
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. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawful hire undocumented workers. we know what a pathway to citizenship looks like and what the criteria should be. and so really the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. i'd like to see if we can get it done sooner in the first half of the year if possible. >> r. >>> and now to hope that remains in the search for a missing u.s. air force pilot off the coast of italy. lucas grunther and his f-16 is missing. his wife describes him as a self reliant outdoorsman and if anybody can survive something like this, lucas could. fog hampered the efforts but among the debris found so far, there is evidence he jekted. >>> developing stories to keep an eye on for you, will he or won't he ge
. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawful hire undocumented workers. we know what a pathway to...
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the nra it diminishes their own power. there is not, has not and will not be a proposal to take away anyone's guns or to prevent any wrongful purchase. there obviously are going to be some changes proposed that's different than taking away your gun, but clearly, the nra hopes that that kind of fearmongering will help them influence what eventually comes out of the white house and and i'm sure it will be opposed to the nra and bringing them to the white house for the meeting is an attempt to talk to them and hear their input and it's not better than not having them in at all. >> molly, when lynn brings up fearmongering, the nra is saying that it has gained about 100,000 new members. a lot of people have been giving reports through december whether it's from christmas or not, but gun sales went up. all of this talk has been basically a big gun commercial for people to buy another weapon or load up on magazine clips that they can use at their leisure. do you think that the numbers are true? that we can fact-check the nra on t
the nra it diminishes their own power. there is not, has not and will not be a proposal to take away anyone's guns or to prevent any wrongful purchase. there obviously are going to be some changes proposed that's different than taking away your gun, but clearly, the nra hopes that that kind of fearmongering will help them influence what eventually comes out of the white house and and i'm sure it will be opposed to the nra and bringing them to the white house for the meeting is an attempt to...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist. thank you both for joining us. you have been in this fight for so long, congresswoman mccarthy. i have to ask you, is there something out there in the water that's changed or are we confronting the old power of the nra? >> well, certainly we are confronting them. we'll always be able to confront them, but this time is different, and i think that the american people are realizing on how radical they actually are. you know, when you see the polls in most people in america support on what we're trying to do, even nra members, so that this time is differe
show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist....
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. >> but even those points are likely to face opposition from the nra. research money for studying the impact of guns is a fraction of what it was in the mid '90s and public health scientists have complained, because the gun lobby has choked off funding to parts of the center for disease control that used to study gun-related injuries and deaths. >>> and no surprise, there was little sign the white house and nra found any common ground in yesterday's closed meeting. the white house released this picture, but they didn't characterize the meeting, and refused to respond to the nra. the nra, they put out a pretty combative statement saying this, quote, we were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the second amendment. >>> on the "today" show this morning, nra president david keen said much of what the white house is considering are, quote, feel-good proposals. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration. first of all, on what would make a differe
. >> but even those points are likely to face opposition from the nra. research money for studying the impact of guns is a fraction of what it was in the mid '90s and public health scientists have complained, because the gun lobby has choked off funding to parts of the center for disease control that used to study gun-related injuries and deaths. >>> and no surprise, there was little sign the white house and nra found any common ground in yesterday's closed meeting. the white...
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so you wonder about of this kind of vaunted nra is i think becoming no longer a vaunted nra. it's becoming somewhat more of a paper tiger than a caged tiger because these statements and this communications strategy is not winning any friends. it's losing lots of friends and that's why i think you even hear a lot of pro-nra members saying the kinds of things that the white house are talking about makts a lot of sense and it all shows up in the polling. the poll something overwhelmingly for doing the things that the vice president is talking about. >> but, dr. peterson, you have heard some of the things coming out from gun advocates and the nra. what is your reaction to this kind of rhetoric? it's sounding increasingly hallucinating. >> there's a lot of what we call trickology going on here. theer those on the right who are mouthpieces for the gun manufacturing lobby, what they have done is they've taken this sort of american notion of the second amendment and that he try to use this as a prop to actually continue to be able to sell more guns and to continue to along the lines
so you wonder about of this kind of vaunted nra is i think becoming no longer a vaunted nra. it's becoming somewhat more of a paper tiger than a caged tiger because these statements and this communications strategy is not winning any friends. it's losing lots of friends and that's why i think you even hear a lot of pro-nra members saying the kinds of things that the white house are talking about makts a lot of sense and it all shows up in the polling. the poll something overwhelmingly for doing...
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colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003, more than 20,000 illegal weapons have been recovered in the district of columbia. no legal weapons allowed, and yet we recovered over 20,000 weapons. no legislation is dealing with this problem and a lot of urban problems. >> charles? >> that is exactly the core of the issue, that is the conundrum of the reason the assault weapon ban of the mid-90s, which lasted a decade, had no effect, is because it left existing and circulation the weapons people already had. unless you're going to confiscate, which australia did, but we cannot under the second amendment -- part of our c
colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003,...
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the nra says reducing high capacity magazines would also fail. so what do you expect could be done to address the issue of gun violence in america? >> well, just because things appear to be hard, doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to do them. and as you pointed out at the start of the show, martin, i think the american people have the memory of these children is permanently seared in everyone's memory, and the fierce urgency of now in taking action is upon this congress. that, of course, has caused the lobbies to act and repel against it, but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't continue to put forward common sense, practical legislation. mike thompson, who has been designated by nancy pelosi in our caucus to head up a special task force, has been holding hearings, and i think what's gripping the country is that there are common sense, practical solutions. and standing behind that is the resolve of a president, our president, who i was fortunate to fly to connecticut with. when he came out and spoke, he said this was the worst day of my presidency, a
the nra says reducing high capacity magazines would also fail. so what do you expect could be done to address the issue of gun violence in america? >> well, just because things appear to be hard, doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to do them. and as you pointed out at the start of the show, martin, i think the american people have the memory of these children is permanently seared in everyone's memory, and the fierce urgency of now in taking action is upon this congress. that, of course,...
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new york mayor michael bloomberg said on "morning joe" that most americans want the reforms that the nra and its affiliates push so hard against. >> all they have to do is just accept reasonable restrictions. nobody is trying to take away your gun. nobody is trying to take away your right to go hunting or target shooting or have protection in your home. simply we're trying to have some reasonable things so people aren't killed. >> today the mayor's anti-illegal guns group is going on air with an ad that invokes sandy hook and features the mother of the youngest victim of that tucson shooting. >> 20 heart-broken families lost a child in the sandy hook school shooting. i know how much it hurts. my 9-year-old daughter was murdered in the tucson shooting. i have one question for our political leaders. when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby? whose child has to die next? >> indeed. the same question could be asked by a mother and father of one of the latest shooting victims in our daily tally of gun casualties, including a 15-year-old girl shot and killed early today in mi
new york mayor michael bloomberg said on "morning joe" that most americans want the reforms that the nra and its affiliates push so hard against. >> all they have to do is just accept reasonable restrictions. nobody is trying to take away your gun. nobody is trying to take away your right to go hunting or target shooting or have protection in your home. simply we're trying to have some reasonable things so people aren't killed. >> today the mayor's anti-illegal guns group...
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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin money and big grass roots organization. >> and the thing is bringing the voices in. we need the leadership of the president and i expect the president president to play a strong leadership role. progressive organizations will work in the states and make sure that we have the voice and we wily have the american people and even gun owners who is support these proposals their voices at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of the 20 small children in newtown, last mo
of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin...
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this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of what that executive direction might look like. vice president biden talking about some of the ideas that have been bantied back and forth in these meetings. here's what he had to say today. take a listen. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we have met with. and i'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons can be owned. and one is there is a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal backgr
this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of...
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the nra told us it is opposed to any registry of law-abiding gun owners. so workers here are left with an antiquated system to trace 350,000 guns a year, require them to review by hand tons of paper records and 500 million entries on microfilm. they say it's the law enforcement equivalent of the horse and buggy. the investigators spend much of their time on the phones. >> we actually have to contact the chain -- all the dealers in the chain of distribution. >> reporter: more than a third of the traces involve a gun store that's gone out of business. those records are sent to the tracing center which receives more than a thousand boxes a month. many of the records are barely legible. >> so, for example, these are records that we received as a result of hurricane katrina. we had to dry these out in the parking lot. >> reporter: you dried these out in the parking lot. >> yes, sir, we did. >> reporter: despite the burdensome process, gun traces that are marked urgent are usually completed within 24 hours, but reteen traces ainge about five days. the atf's work
the nra told us it is opposed to any registry of law-abiding gun owners. so workers here are left with an antiquated system to trace 350,000 guns a year, require them to review by hand tons of paper records and 500 million entries on microfilm. they say it's the law enforcement equivalent of the horse and buggy. the investigators spend much of their time on the phones. >> we actually have to contact the chain -- all the dealers in the chain of distribution. >> reporter: more than a...
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the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started with the election of a black president. >> how so? connect. >> let's remember that in 2008 obama had campaigned for his first election being afraid to mention the words gun and law in the same paragraph. he never said a single thing about gun control, gun safety laws. yet when he was elected, gun stores sold out of guns. gun stores sold out of ammunition because the gun lobby had persuaded them that this guy is coming for your guns. they're already paranoid, extremist -- >> let's get to that overlay. >> they don't like progressive, democratic administrati
the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started...
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and tomorrow two of those will have an audience the nra and wal-mart. today we're getting a look at some of the people who will be shaping the president's second-term cabinet. jack lou will be teshry secretary, and hilda solis will be stepping down. so for more on gun control, gun safety, and the other big issues i'm joined by the great chris pelosi. great to have you back inside "the war room." >> great to be here governor. >> stephanie: yesterday your mom spoke up. here is a sound bite. >> if we come out of the newtown experience and all we do is talk about it and not have a result that would be a dereliction of duty on our part. >> jennifer: are you hearing -- is there any possibility of getting something through congress. >> i think there is. >> jennifer: really? >> the majority of americans agree closing the gun show loopholes. i think if it starts in the senate -- >> jennifer: it would have to start in the senate. >> has to start in the senate is, but i think background checks are very important. most people in america agree we should keep guns ou
and tomorrow two of those will have an audience the nra and wal-mart. today we're getting a look at some of the people who will be shaping the president's second-term cabinet. jack lou will be teshry secretary, and hilda solis will be stepping down. so for more on gun control, gun safety, and the other big issues i'm joined by the great chris pelosi. great to have you back inside "the war room." >> great to be here governor. >> stephanie: yesterday your mom spoke up. here...
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i am so excited that president biden and the commission will be talking to nra leadership. because until we start coming together, we are never going to find a solution. and i believe that this time perhaps we have the momentum. certainly i know that the average citizen is behind it. i'm sure you've seen the polls that 84% of gun owners believed that all guns should go through a background check. that is absolutely only common sense. i was a teacher of middle school and high school for over 20 years. and i can see how firearms and gun violence can cause such havoc in young lives. especially the 33 on average a day that are killed are usually young and usually people of color and usually poor. and this is an outrage. this needs to change. >> clarence, on that note because she's absolutely right about the proportion of people of color and poor that are being shot and killed, chicago police department records that there are 506 deaths in 2012 in chicago. 16% increase from the year before. a total of 11 people have been killed in gun violence in chicago this year. this is an ep
i am so excited that president biden and the commission will be talking to nra leadership. because until we start coming together, we are never going to find a solution. and i believe that this time perhaps we have the momentum. certainly i know that the average citizen is behind it. i'm sure you've seen the polls that 84% of gun owners believed that all guns should go through a background check. that is absolutely only common sense. i was a teacher of middle school and high school for over 20...
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when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a statement right away, and i agree that having security at schools is a good idea, but i don't necessarily think it's a federal government role. i think it's up to communities, states to decide and the schools in my districts, we already have resource officers in every school, so this is something that's being done on a local level in some places, and we ought to look at whether that's good policy everywhere, but, again, i don't think the federal government needs to be involved in funding it or telling states that they have to do it. >> senator, i've got to have it quickly. what did you think of the nra resp
when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a...
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, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats. >> and, in fact, marco rubio, chuck, has put out a statement saying that nothing the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at sandy hook. president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not mu
, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats....
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protected thanks to the nra. why is the nra guy so surprised that they may be asking? >> bill: answer me this megyn. >> okay. >> bill: the president makes a point in his presentation about guns to mention mental health people all right? he is going to direct them. is he going to give them authority in this area. >> that they may. >> bill: that they may. >> clarifying his law doesn't prohibit. clarifying that indeed they may. >> bill: that's a little bit of spin. >> they have been doing it, bill. they have been doing it. if you are a physician and somebody comes into your office with six gunshot wounds you have a right to ask about the gun. i saw the president and he is not a guy ha ad-libs a lot. this is on the tell prompter specifically point out that he is giving the authority to school officials,mental health officials. to get into this area. and i think that just raises red flag going all right. now what? how many questions. >> i don't see it like that. your doctor can ask whatever he wants to ask. there are circumstances as you point out where they should is ask.
protected thanks to the nra. why is the nra guy so surprised that they may be asking? >> bill: answer me this megyn. >> okay. >> bill: the president makes a point in his presentation about guns to mention mental health people all right? he is going to direct them. is he going to give them authority in this area. >> that they may. >> bill: that they may. >> clarifying his law doesn't prohibit. clarifying that indeed they may. >> bill: that's a little bit...
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i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not about this hard-line political organization. i think the data from gun manufacturers really makes a point that gun owners really need a different organization. >> thank you both for your time this evening. and don't forget to tune into melissa harris-perry saturdays and sundays at 10 a.m. here on msnbc. >>> coming up, president obama's big step towardss -- plus, remember when todd legitimate rape akin said that. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. >>> and should president obama be on mt. rushmore? it is a question getting a lot of attenti
i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not...
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but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican senators like mark kirk in illinois who have been open in the past on issues like assault weapons bans, and you'll have democrats in the west, the mountain west and the rural south that will be absolutely opposed to it. and as you said earlier, though it is nonsense, and i'm certainly a person who believes that you can be a second amendment supporter, and also have sensible regulations on guns, but this issue plays out on the extremes, on the absurd binary choice that has defined the issue for so long. >> and that analysis, what you said ther
but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican...
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nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do not have to be owned by the average person, and that we come up with a mental health care plan. >> as we talk about patricia what needs to be done on a federal level nationally. what has been done in your community of arizona in the last two years that makes you feel that not only that community has done something to move forward but that can be used as an example for elsewhere? >> well, unfortunately i don't think much has been done at all. our state legislator during the -- right after the shootings decided that it was appropriate to name a state gun. that seemed like a slap in the face. we have a buy ba
nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do...
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and i think the nra -- rachel maddow made this point the other night. it's been so long since they've had to argue this issue, they've been shocked. let's take some reasonable steps to prevent something like newtown from happening again. a lot of people including gun owners are on that side. and i think the freakout helped on the other side. when they say if i don't get what i want, i'm going to start killing people. your first reaction is whoa. >> that's why i wanted to show people when you have freakouts, you usually look freaky in doing them. >> it's a good rule. >> the nra wane lapierre said in december that school should employ armed officers. listen to this, both of you. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. we need to have every single school in america immediately deploy a protection program proven to work. and, by that, i mean armed security. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is to take the gun from him in the first place. and then he's an unarmed bad guy. there's not even logic to that. but
and i think the nra -- rachel maddow made this point the other night. it's been so long since they've had to argue this issue, they've been shocked. let's take some reasonable steps to prevent something like newtown from happening again. a lot of people including gun owners are on that side. and i think the freakout helped on the other side. when they say if i don't get what i want, i'm going to start killing people. your first reaction is whoa. >> that's why i wanted to show people when...
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but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service. coming up only three things are certain in obama's second term, debt taxes and caving in on debt and taxes--still. every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? >> john: the only news coming out of dc as 2012 came to an end was the fiscal cliff. congress working through christmas and senators having to work on new year's eve. then they finally came up with a deal on taxes so the issue can be put to rest for a long time. thank god we never have to talk about that any more. >> more taxes? >> we're talking about looking at the tax co
but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service....
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there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has a long and proud history of doing exactly that. our child safety program has taught 25 million young children that if they see a gun, they should do four things. stop, don't touch, the area, call an adult. as a result of this and other private-sector programs, fatal firearms accidents are at the lowest level in 100 years. the nra has over 80,000 certified instructors to teach our military personnel, law enforcement officers, and hundreds of thousands of other american men and women how to safely use firearms. we do more and spend more than anyone else
there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has...
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senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning with your prior guests about also our mental healthsystem. my background before serving in the senate, i was a homicide prosecutor and i come at it from a perspective, taking away the rights of law abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. that said, should we look at improving our background check system? i'm willing to listen to what proposals come forward on that. but, again, i don't know that that wouldn't have stopped what happened in newtown, and i think we need to be thoughtful in how we go forward with what happens and make sure that whatever is done, actua
senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning...
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the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate you joining me. >> thank you. >>> debate is under way on the house floor for aid for victims of superstorm sandy but the house is at odds over how to pay for the bill. lawmakers from states impacted took to the floor earlier to make impassioned pleas. >> my constituents, the constituents of the northeast, they're not just whining. they're not just uncomfortable. they are devastated! >> there's simply no reason for the delay unless you believe that when disaster strikes we are all on our own. >> the time for recriminations is over. let's stand together as americans
the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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with the nra did was odious. i think the president is on the high ground but he will not get done real gun-control. >> these 23 executive actions were fairly trivial, there was nothing major about it. i think it will not have any effect. it was an appearance of motion. the three big items on the table for the congress, assault weapons ban, the limit on the magazine clip, and universal background checks, i think the last one has very strong public opinion behind it. it is likely to pass. the other two are not likely to pass. >> charles is right, in the 80%- plus range approval rating for the idea of universal background checks, but i'm still not convinced it will pass. because of the influence of the gun lobby and the way we have redistricted so that we have so many safe seats. you can tell something about the tenor of this debate by the fact that you saw the former attorney general, members of congress -- one member put in an article of impeachment against the president over his executive orders, before they were
with the nra did was odious. i think the president is on the high ground but he will not get done real gun-control. >> these 23 executive actions were fairly trivial, there was nothing major about it. i think it will not have any effect. it was an appearance of motion. the three big items on the table for the congress, assault weapons ban, the limit on the magazine clip, and universal background checks, i think the last one has very strong public opinion behind it. it is likely to pass....
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so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits. helping to reduce aggression. when people are feeling stressed and angry and they play a video game that has violence in it, they often come out feeling less stressed and angry afterwards. and violent video games are only sold to adults, children cannot buy them, adults can buy them and play them themselves. >> daniel, thank you for taking time out for me, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> absolutely. ach began president, has returned home. and the earth guesting hotter, this year maerked the hottest year on record, how do we analyze this? we will talk about that next. you are watching msnbc
so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits....